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Oh, I LOVE that!!!!!
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Elaine I'll agree with you...I don't if they were to bring back the show,if it would be the same...but I'd love to see a new movie Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, is it just me or has the forum been low activity lately? Either we've analyzed everything to death and there's nothing left (which I highly doubt with this wonderful group of Quinnies), or maybe it's just a busy time for everyone. I know I just started a new job that I adore already.

Anyway, with all that said, I'm revitalizing this topic about the reverend going blind and what effect it had on the story. Here's my two, maybe three, cents on it.

I think the idea to have the reverend go blind was a good one- It would seem that the writers' goal would have been or should have been to heighten the reverend's other senses. I'd seen him take a less-than-holy stance on issues over the seasons. As Michaela asked on more than one occasion, "Reverend, do you or do you not answer to a higher authority?" You'd hope that he'd grow some guts and take a stand as a religious leader within the town. But so many times it felt like he fell short. I was hoping that when he went blind, his character would undergo some serious soul-searching... that he'd take more of stand, and use his heightened senses for good. But I just didn't see enough of that to think that him going blind was a good move for the plot and series.

Any fresh thoughts? : )
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I definitely agree Jane - I think his blindness could have been put to good use, like you said...sharpening his other senses, perhaps strengthening his character even more, or finding another way to serve God, though he seemed to still be able to manage his parish (even though we didn't see very much of that after his blindness.) They did brush on his senses sharpening in that episode, as he heard the snow falling, but then we really didn't see that go anywhere from there. I think they could have given that storyline a lot more focus and it would have been very interesting to see.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Kristin. : )

I don't know... What faith is there to be kept when even the reverend, one of God's human tools, has lost hope or fails to see the way in times of challenge? If anyone could've used his faith to rise above, I'd hoped it would be Reverend Johnson. Dont get me wrong... I've never been blind and I probably could never have even the faintest idea of what emotions are involved. STILL, there comes a time after you've screamed, kicked, and pouted in any of life's obstacles, where you just have to say "okay, what now?" I didn't get the impression that the Reverend ever fully took that ownership of his situation. He went with the flow which would've been fine for the congregation, but for the leader? What's to look up to when your own reverend is down and out, just "getting by?" One attend services for many reasons, one of which is to receive spiritual guidance and inspiration. You look for life's answers by following God's word. If I were any of the Reverend Johnson's congregates after he'd gone blind, I'd have either lost complete faith in God or left that church. How could I have any confidence that I can get through anything life throws my way so long as God is my leader, when my own Reverend can't see why God would have taken his sight for reasons he may not yet know?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He may have been "a reverend," but he was still human, and as such, he should be allowed to mourn his loss, just as anyone else would. Just because someone is called by God into His service doesn't automatically make them any more "God-like" than anyone else. Why would anyone choose to follow that calling, if they knew they were going to held to that kind of standard?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what we're saying is that we'd like to have seen maybe more of that struggle. That storyline pretty much disappeared after he went blind, and we never saw much of his dealing with it except in the episode where Marjorie gets him to try riding a horse. I would like to have seen that story line be explored a lot more. The struggles he faced, how he overcame them (if he did), how he dealt with his infirmary...did it make him a stronger person? It may have...we just didn't get to see it. I would like to have seen him really strengthen, but reality is that it doesn't always happen that way. We don't really see it either way - the storyline kind of just fizzles out and the Reverend is really just kind of there. He almost becomes more of a prop. When he showed up for Christmas Service it led us to believe he was conquering it, then it really didn't go anywhere after that.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Am I wrong or wasn't there an episode exactly like that in which the Rev talked about how his blindness had caused him to 'see' with his heart? Was it the one in which Anthony wasn't accepted at the school? Can anyone remember? I do agree they could have done much more with exploring his experience being blind but sadly, this all came at a time CBS had cut the budget drastically and if you'll notice around this time you started getting more and more eps with less townies/regulars. In the beginning of the series you might have almost all the main cast in each ep, then suddenly there were always many absent towards the end of the series, which I think hurt the depth of the storylines as well. They were struggling just to keep the series going then and they had lost their original writers who really knew the characters. Geoffrey had wanted this storyline for the challenge but I have to agree with you all they could have done much more.

Jane, with regard to activity level, I think most of us have been hanging out in the Dear Prudence section lately! Sorry about that!
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

michaela1 wrote:
Am I wrong or wasn't there an episode exactly like that in which the Rev talked about how his blindness had caused him to 'see' with his heart? Was it the one in which Anthony wasn't accepted at the school? Can anyone remember? I do agree they could have done much more with exploring his experience being blind but sadly, this all came at a time CBS had cut the budget drastically and if you'll notice around this time you started getting more and more eps with less townies/regulars. In the beginning of the series you might have almost all the main cast in each ep, then suddenly there were always many absent towards the end of the series, which I think hurt the depth of the storylines as well. They were struggling just to keep the series going then and they had lost their original writers who really knew the characters. Geoffrey had wanted this storyline for the challenge but I have to agree with you all they could have done much more.

Jane, with regard to activity level, I think most of us have been hanging out in the Dear Prudence section lately! Sorry about that!


Now that you mention it, I do remember that scene in an episode, but for the life of me I can't place the episode name at the moment. I wish they had done more with the Reverend dealing with his blindness, and the bew direction his life took.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was it the one about the woman with leprosy?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ohh, I *think* it might have been one of the episodes where Dorothy started getting interested in Cloud Dancing. Wasn't it where the Reverend was saying that since his blindness he has discovered what a kind and gentle man Cloud Dancing is? Maybe it was Last Dance?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now that you mention it, I think I remember the Reverend asking Dorothy to walk with him once and he was talking about seeing people differently...that one way his blindness was an asset to him was that he no longer could see people's outsides...he had to look at their insides, and he considered that a great gift, or something to that effect. AGH...which one was that though? He was actually glad to be able to see the people for who they were, rather than what they looked like or something like that. Are we talking about the same one?
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kristin wrote:
Now that you mention it, I think I remember the Reverend asking Dorothy to walk with him once and he was talking about seeing people differently...that one way his blindness was an asset to him was that he no longer could see people's outsides...he had to look at their insides, and he considered that a great gift, or something to that effect. AGH...which one was that though? He was actually glad to be able to see the people for who they were, rather than what they looked like or something like that. Are we talking about the same one?


Yes, that was the episode I was talking about in regards to his comments about Cloud Dancing. I can picture the scene, but for some reason, my mind is drawing a blank at the episode. Rolling Eyes
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